Cowboy Bedroll

howdy,

Voici des photos du bedroll vendu sur maker 1881...
Il n'est pas comme ceux décrits précédemment dans le sujet...
Est-il bon ? Est-il d'une autre période ?
Quelle période pour les bedrolls précédemment présentés (genre ceux fait par dressmaker) 1860's, 1870's, 1880's, 1890's?
Quelle époque pour le modèle présenté par maker 1881 (antérieur, postérieur, pas bon)?
Je ne veux pas faire d'erreur... et ne plus prendre de duvet en camp
Merci pour vos conseils avisés.

Mike a écrit:

J.B.Books a écrit:

Demande à Émilie... Elle en fait de très bon !

Bonjour JB ce serait chouette si tu pouvais nous communiquer les coordonnées d'Emilie afin de lui passer commande, merci.

   

Mike

MP Mike, tu transmettras à Blueberry.  

  JB c'est noté !!

Merci beaucoup J.B. Books.
Mike me les transmettra. J'espère qu'elle en fait toujours.

Les modèles de bedrolls sont différents... Les deux sont-il bons ?

Quelle période selon les modèles ?


J'ai demandé à maker 1881, ils m'ont dit qu'ils font leur bedroll d'après des recherches mais ne le situe pas dans le temps...
Voilà leur réponse :
"The bed roll you are enquiring about is the conclusion of research we made looking at pictures an speaking to a group of enthusiasts.  The Hollywood film idea of a cowboy or westerner using a blanket rolled and tied to his saddle appears to be convenient for the camera, but would be inaccurate in history.  What we discovered was, in reality, the cowboy used a canvas bed roll into which he pushed blankets and whatever else he had to keep him warm and dry whenever he could get some sleep.  Whenever that opportunity arose he wanted a good, warm and dry, sleep.  The canvas is formed into an envelop shape to form the bedroll.  Some had their's made from old wagon covers, some were made from new canvas, either would keep them warm and dry. They were carried in the wagon.  Apparently the lone rider, a horse only, rolled their's lengthwise, thus reducing the bulk on the saddle. I do hope that this is helpful to you.
Please note that the B44 Bed roll does not have a 'pillow'sack.These are out of stock at the moment but I can soon make you one if required. The basic bed roll  B44 costs £32, with a pillow sack £45.Postage to France is £10 or £15 if you would like it tracked."

Les bedrolls montrés plus haut se retrouvent beaucoup dans certains livres que j'ai dont "That was the West".
(Book - That was the west)
Ils sont plus fin 1800 voir début 1900... Mais peut être étaient-ils antérieures ? (Je me réfère aux dates des photos, ça ne veut pas dire qu'ils n'existaient pas avant)

 

La suite de leur réponse concernant la période de leur bedroll:
Je comprends les grandes lignes mais j'aurai peut-être dû plus bosser mon anglais à l'école...
Ils situent leur bedroll entre la guerre de sécession et les années 1880...

"There are many examples of bedrolls by re enactors, some are modern and some claim to be authentic.   We sell ours, and use them ourselves, covering from the US civil war to 1880's.

The cowboy's bedroll, unlike bedrolls or sleeping bags used by modern-day campers, was much, much more than a sleeping bag. The bedroll served as his "mini-home" on the range.

In its most elaborate form, a bedroll contained a whole host of personal possessions wrapped in canvas (when canvas could be found) or sometimes just in make-shift heavy grain sack cloth. Tied up or strapped within such a bedroll might be a "sugan" (also spelled "sougan" or "suggan" and several other very creative ways) or two and the cowboy's "war bag" or "possibles sack." In fact, a well-planned and well-stocked bedroll carefully wrapped and tied might be slung across a horse's back behind the saddle, or if it was too large and burdensome and the cowboy was a working cowboy, his bedroll might be slung off the side of a chuck wagon or tucked down in the bed of the chuck wagon along with all the crew's cooking utensils.

Smaller bedrolls for "portability" may have been mounted on the cowboy's horse, but not the true, masterpieces of portable homes like a serious, full-grown bedroll. Which means we should ask -- what were these mysterious "sugans" or "war bags," and how did they work for the average cowboy?

Sugans -- These were heavy blankets, or more often quilts, that contained some substance and if possible some padding that made them warm for cover. The same term is sometimes used for a small tarp or canvas that could be drapped over a tree branch or propped up with sticks to form a rudimentary one-man tent. So a sugan might be a tent, or you might think of it as a sleeping bag. The important thing in winters on the range in Texas or across the Great Plains was that sugans should provide both shelter and warmth as much as possible.

War Bags or Possible Sacks -- If you think about those terms, you may figure this one out. These were canvas bags or often just old grain or flower sacks in which the cowboy kept prized possessions. They could be grabbed up and taken along in a hurry. Quoting from Winfred Blevins' "Dictionary of the American West":

The more elaborate the roll would suggest the less authentic the roll.  Many Confederate soldiers dump their issued backpacks, rolled their valuables in their bedroll and slung it over their shoulder.  A bag was of no use to them, they could carry the treasures in their bed, the occupant  of which was seeking comfort and warmth from his bedroll, plus the a means to keep his treasures safely. All the above information, together with our personal experiences in re enacting led us to produce the roll we now sell."

Si quelqu'un si connaît je suis pas contre une traduction...

Je vais aller me renseigner dans un magasin de tissus...
Je pense que si c'est plus avantageux je vais faire comme la plupart de mes affaires... Du homemade... (En fait ce sera peut être plus madame que moi pour la couture...)

Merci beaucoup Lloyd pour les précisions :)
Je peux dater comme ça...